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Apologies For Absence

To receive apologies for absence from the meeting.


Apologies for absence were received from Councillor Boughton.


Minutes pdf icon PDF 61 KB

Confirmation of the Minutes of the meeting held on 14 November 2018.


It was proposed by Councillor Laws, seconded by Councillor Simmons and –




That the minutes of the meeting held on 14 November 2018 be agreed and signed as a correct record.


(Vote: For 6, Abstentions 3)


Councillor Pennington raised a point of order, in accordance with Section A6.12 of the Council’s constitution, relating to Councillor Hackett being present at the meeting and voting.  Councillor Hackett responded that he was present in his capacity as Lead Member for Health & Wellbeing to support the Committee with a report.  He had not voted and would not vote.


Public Participation

15 minute period for public contributions


There was no public participation.


Declaration Of Interests

Members with interests should refer to the agenda item and describe the nature of their interest when the item is considered.



Members were reminded that declarations of interest should be made as and when the specific agenda item to which they related was under discussion.



Agreement Of Agenda Items Part I and II


There were no Part II items.


Urgent Matters Brought Forward With the Permission Of The Chair


The Chair spoke about the External Overview & Scrutiny Committee reviewing the pending closure of Appledore Shipyard.


Councillor Pennington declared an interest – his brother is an employee of Babcocks.


The Chair was reassured by the Head of Paid Service that as much was being done as possible and he felt confident to leave the issue in the hands of the Head of Paid Service and the Leader of the Council.


CCG Update

To receive an update from Dr Womersley of the CCG.


The Chair welcomed Dr Womersley and Mr James Wright.


Dr Womersley proceeded with a high level overview of the CCG, its aims and challenges.  He informed the meeting that the Sustainability Transformation Partnership (STP) had been a concept introduced by the Government; a collaboration of all the providers and commissioners.  The STP was now moving towards an Integrated Care System (ICS), which would involve working closely with local authorities.  However, the Government had not approved the ICS yet as further building blocks needed to be in place but it was hoped an application to become an ICS would be submitted in the autumn.


Health care and social wellbeing are strongly interdependent.  The focus this year is around wellbeing with its links to housing, education, health services, employment and social and medical care.


Northern, Eastern and Western Devon CCG and South Devon and Torbay CCG had agreed to merge to the new Devon CCG and this was on track to be completed by the end of March 2019.  The CCGs will become the NHS Devon CCG.  In addition, within the commissioning system, the CCG had applied to be commissioners of the GP services (primary healthcare services) which is currently covered by NHS England.   Having a single strategic commission will enable hospitals and GPs to work alongside each other more effectively.


The health commissioners are also looking to work with local authorities to become joint commissioners of the system.  This had worked well in Plymouth.  In Devon the single strategic commission will be the collaboration with Devon County Council.  An example of where the CCG already works well with DCC is the Better Care Fund, where money is allocated to DCC but it is used to relieve the pressure within the heath service. 


Services must be commissioned around people, not money.


There will be activity at 3 main levels:


·         Places – the collaboration with DCC

·         Neighbourhoods – will be tailored to reflect Devon’s geographical needs but at the same will make medical sense.  It was acknowledged that although Northern Devon was isolated, it did have its own district hospital and the link road. 

·         Networks – the pooling of GP and nursing services to provide care for 30,000 – 50,000 patients.  This will provide “improved access”, more extensive care, perhaps offering Saturdays and Sundays and longer hours.  To achieve this, practices may not need to merge but to work together. This would also alleviate the issues around the workforce in primary care.  As an example of the difficulties, Dr Womersley cited the situation in Plymouth, where there are 30 unfilled GP positions.


Practices are being encouraged to extend their range of services to include pharmacies, physio, mental health practitioners and occupational therapists.  This is in keeping with the 10 year plan recently released by the Government and indeed some of the priorities had already been set by the North Devon STP, such as:


·                Digital services

·                Acute services review – takes in all the services


Other key issues being looked at:


·      Equity – elderly  ...  view the full minutes text for item 60.


6 month Review of Impact Evaluation

To receive an update from Mr Topham, Non-elected Member.


Members recalled that in 2017 Mr Topham had reported to the Committee on an interview survey of TDC partners, following which he had developed a questionnaire for presenters to complete.  A trial had run from May to December 2018, which covered 5 committee meetings and 8 presentations.  The aim of the trial had been to test whether the procedure worked.  The response had not been encouraging, with only 3 forms being returned (digitally) out of 8.  However, the information gleaned from the returns was very interesting.


Members discussed whether the trial should be extended for a further 6 months and whether a follow up to the initial letter and invitation to complete the form should be implemented.  It was also suggested that a proforma should be given to presenters at the point at which they are invited to attend the meeting.


It was proposed by Councillor Pennington, seconded by Councillors Laws and –




·         That the trial be extended for a further 6 months

·         That a follow up be implemented


(Vote: For – unanimous)


Councillor Pennington and Mr Topham will liaise regarding the proforma.


Health, Wellbeing & Social Care (Standing item)


The Lead Member for Health & Wellbeing reported on an enquiry from the Office of the Police and Crime Commissioner about raising the council tax precept by 41p a week which would enable the Chief Constable to invest in 85 new police officers across Devon and Cornwall.  Details will be provided in the Members’ Bulletin.


The Head of Paid Service advised the Committee that this was something which would have to go public consultation.



External Grants Working Group (Standing item)

To receive an update from the External Grants Working Group.


The Head of Paid Service confirmed that the External Grants Working Group had met and there will be a further meeting of the joint working group.  There was no update at this stage.


Play Areas Working Group (Standing Item)

To receive an update from the Play Areas Working Group.


The Play Areas Working Group had met and, as a result, an item has been added to the Community & Resources Committee agenda which suggests external experts be commissioned  to bring forward a play strategy which will be funded from the Local Plan budget.


Councillor Laws had attended the meeting and reported that it had been a very productive meeting and he gave it his full support.


The Head of Paid Service confirmed that the strategy will be purely for TDC and will relate only to areas owned by the Council.


Crime & Disorder Scrutiny Cttee (annual item) pdf icon PDF 89 KB

To receive an update from the Crime & Disorder Scrutiny Cttee.


It was noted that that the Crime & Disorder Scrutiny Committee update will be replaced by an update on the Community Safety Partnership (CSP).


The Environmental Health & Community Safety Manager presented the report which illustrated the structure of the CSP, its members, priorities and achievements over the last year.  The Safer Devon Partnership fulfils some of the statutory functions, such as strategic assessment and management of domestic homicide reports.  The CSP was represented on the Safer Devon Partnership by the Chair of the CSP.


Funding for the CSP comes from the Office of the Police & Crime Commissioner (£12,500 to each local authority).


The Committee debated the following aspects:


·                Road Safety – There was concern at the number of elderly people involved in road traffic incidents.  The Environmental Health & Community Safety Manager stated that evidence was developing that the demographic of the area is related and there are schemes to aid older drivers to assess their driving capability.


          Statistics suggest that a major factor in accidents on the link road is tiredness and lack of preparation.


·                Barnstaple and Bideford bridges and suicide prevention - The Environmental Health & Community Safety Manager explained the measures taken to make access to the bridges more difficult.  She also reminded Members about the suicide bite sized training sessions being rolled out in Torridge, which Members can attend.


The Environmental Health & Community Safety Manager added that the CSP is very well attended and is very effective, however, she took on board that it may be of benefit to invite the MPs too and she will broach this with the Chair of the CSP.


The Chair thanked the Environmental Health & Community Safety Manager.







Consideration Of The Forward Plan pdf icon PDF 58 KB


The Head of Paid Service gave an update on the Appledore Shipyard, explaining that a lot was happening behind the scenes and reminding the Committee that the shipyard did not belong to Babcocks.  The owners of the shipyard were looking, together with the South West Business Council, at options for alternative operators moving in.  At this stage, there was little for the committee to scrutinise.


Members were informed about the task force and the involvement of various organisations and agencies who will be supporting the employees.


Clarification was provided by the Head of Paid Service that the Forward Plan should finish with the outgoing committee and recommence with the new committee, adding that there will be a training programme.  She also elucidated on the scrutiny responsibilities of both scrutiny committees.


The Forward Plan was noted.