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Crematorium Manager,

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A meeting of the above Committee will be held at the Crematorium, Barnstaple on FRIDAY 20th OCTOBER 2017 AT 2.30 p.m.


Members:       Representing North Devon Council


Councillors Mrs Barker, Edgell, Harrison, Jones, Lane, Moores and Yabsley (Chairman).


                        Representing Torridge District Council


Councillors Dezart, A. Inch, S Inch, Langmead (Vice Chairman) and Pennington.




1.         Apologies for Absence.


2.                     To approve as a correct record the minutes of the meeting held on 4th         August 2017 (attached).


            (a)       Matters Arising


3.         Items brought forward which, in the opinion of the Chairman, should be considered by the meeting as a matter of urgency.


4.         Declarations of Interest.


5.         To agree the agenda between Part ‘A’ and Part ‘B’ (Confidential Restricted Information).




6.         Larkbear Planning Application. Jean Watkins, NDC Planning Officer to     attend


7.         Upper Car Park – Phase 2 Snagging Update. Andrew Wilson NDC to         report


8.         Crematorium Matters. Report by the Crematorium Manager (attached)


9.         Performance Monitoring Report – Quarter 2 2017/18. Report by        Treasurer (attached).


PART ‘B’ (Confidential/Restricted Information)



NOTE:  Local Government (Access to Information) Act 1985


In addition to any document specifically mentioned, reports included in this Agenda will have been prepared with reference to any or all of the following:


1.         All relevant statutory provisions.

2.         All relevant Government circulars and ministerial advice.

3.         All relevant adopted policies of the Council.

4.         Capital Works Programme.

5.         Current Estimates.

6.         Standing Orders

7.         Consultants’ opinion and advice.

8.         Published works relevant to the subject of the report.
























Minutes of a meeting of the NORTH DEVON CREMATORIUM JOINT COMMITTEE held at the Crematorium, Barnstaple on Friday 20th October 2017 at 2.30 p.m.


Present:         Representing North Devon District Council


Councillors Edgell, Jones, Lane, Moores and Yabsley (Chairman)


                        Representing Torridge District Council


Councillors A.Inch, S.Inch and Pennington.




Procurement and Service Delivery Manager, Crematorium Manager, Secretary and Accountant


Also Present:


Jean Watkins (NDC Lead Planning Officer) and Sarah-Jane Mackenzie-Shapland (NDC Planning Officer) for minute (d) only.


(a)       APOLOGIES


Apologies were received from Councillors Harrison and Langmead and Steve Hearse (Treasurer)


(b)       MINUTES


RESOLVED that the minutes of the meeting held on 4th August 2017 (previously circulated) be approved as a correct record and signed by the Chairman.




Councillors A.Inch and Edgell declared interests as Devon County Councillors


Councillor Yabsley declared an interest as a Devon County Councillors and Member of NDC Planning Committee.


Councillor Lane declared an interest as a Member of NDC Planning Committee.








Jean Watkins (NDC Lead Planning Officer) and Sarah-Jane Mackenzie-Shapland (NDC Planning Officer) stated the following:


(i)         that the s106 monies from the Sandringham Gardens application had        been secured for the purchase of the extension to the woodland.


(ii)        that the signing of the s106 agreement agreed on the outline           application consent had not yet been signed due to issues with the land      owning parties.


(iii)       the current full application was for 236 dwellings and should have replicated the terms and contributions of the outline permission. However, the submission changed the access plans which would             have an impact on the Crematorium Memorial Garden. Following    negotiations the access had now been moved back to its original            location. It was imperative that the future of the woodland areas around            the Crematorium were preserved.


(iv)       that upon completion of the 400th dwelling the access/junction onto the     A361 (primary access) should have been completed. In the interim      access to the Crematorium and Old Torrington Road for construction traffic and visitors to the Crematorium would be via Gratton Way. The         Bus Gate would be removed and relocated in Old Torrington Road. It    was proposed to re-locate the bus gate on the completion of the 100th       dwelling but the Planning Committee had requested that it be re-    located at the commencement of the development.

The Joint Committee was agreed that construction traffic should be routed via Gratton Way and that the bus gate should be removed to facilitate this.

The Committee raised the following concerns:

(A)       At the proposed bus gate being re-provided in Old Torrington Road as        a straight replacement of the existing gate and that alternatives needed          to be considered. It was considered that             Gratton Way would not be a          particularly dignified way for bereaved families in funeral corteges to     approach the Crematorium nor would it have the capacity to take the          level of traffic envisaged.  

(B)       The length of time it would take before the alternative access onto the        A361 would be provided would be excessive. 

(C)       That the improvements to be made to Gratton Way to facilitate all of             the traffic and the possible issues with the Sainsbury’s mini          roundabout be addressed. The mix of commercial and domestic traffic         and potential for obstruction/road closure following accidents was also      a great concern.

It was agreed:

(i)         That a time restricting traffic order be placed on Old Torrington Road           similar to that along the Strand to restrict peak hour traffic rather than    the provision of a Bus Gate.

(ii)        That improvements be made to Old Torrington Road (heavily pot      holed) and the roundabout at the top of Sticklepath Hill.

(iii)       That in the longer term access be from the A361 via the Larkbear     development via a direct and unrestricted route



The Joint Committee noted a report (copies tabled) by the Andrew Wilson, NDC Surveyor regarding a number of snagging problems with SW Highways (the Contractor).


NDC currently held a retention of £24,944.81 + vat from SWH Ltd in relation to the contract and for works not yet satisfactorily completed.


The main issues yet to be resolved were:


Car Park Sub Base and Grids

Car Park resin bonding

Masonry Brick Slips

Water egress/alarm contact issue


It was reported that the Car Park Sub Base would be completed by Christmas.





The Joint Committee considered a report by the Crematorium Manager (previously circulated).


i)          Staffing Matters


It was noted that the Manager had been awarded the ICCM Diploma and Eikhoff medal for outstanding achievement in his studies.


The Joint Committee congratulated the Manager on his achievement.


ii)         Achievements


It was noted:


That, the staff had managed a recent service, that had been attended by about 800 mourners. The crematorium had been chosen because of its facilities to deal with a large funeral. The careful preparations ensured that the

service went extremely well with minimal disruption to car-parks and the preceding/following services.


iii)        Crematorium Figures


The Cremation figures were noted.


iv)        Metals Charity Recycling Award


It was noted:


a)         That the Chairman had presented a cheque for £5,000 to the North            Devon Cancer Care Centre Trust.


b)         That the next charity to be submitted for an award would be Families in      Grief.


c)         That the recent increase in awards had apparently been achieved through the increasing use of the scheme and the resulting efficiency             savings of the operating company.


v)         Legislation – Changes to Medical Referee Post: Update


It was noted that the Crematorium Manager had visited the Gloucester pilot scheme with Harry Waters, one of our Medical Referees. This was one of two pilots and it was operating as a commissioned service from the NHS (effectively being run by the Gloucester General Hospital Bereavement Office).


During the visit it was recognised that the geographical area that scheme covered was determined by the Coroner’s area of responsibility, raising the possibility the authority likely to be responsible would be Devon County Council rather than each individual council.


This issue was raised with Dr Judith Bernstein (the Ministry of Justice lead for Coroners, Burials and Cremations). She indicated that there was no decision yet regarding how each area would be set up geographically and similarly no decision had been made about which authority would be responsible. She

also indicated that the Brexit negotiations and recent tragedies at Grenfell and terrorist attacks at Westminster Bridge and Manchester Arena had been occupying her team with the result that the implementation had been delayed by an undetermined period – at least 2019.





vi)        Grounds Improvement Update


It was noted that the next phase of works (new ‘summerhouse’ structure and Poet’s area border edging/paths) all required tenders in view of the expenditure. These were pending with a view to works being completed early in the New Year.


vii)       Chapel Music System


It was noted that the music system had been running for over 2 weeks and there had been a period of ‘dual running’ the old and new systems. However all was working well and there had been no problems with web casting.


viii       Sanctums


It was noted that the sanctums had been poplar and were now all full. There was room to expand and each was leased for 10 years.


It was agreed that a further 6 sanctums be purchased.


ix         Christmas Closure


It was noted and agreed that the Crematorium would beclosed on Wednesday 27th December 2017




The Joint Committee considered and noted a report by the Treasurer (previously circulated) regarding the performance for April to September 2017/18





The meeting ended at 4.00 p.m.








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